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how do you place user-boxes? [ edit ]

i'd like to but i'm not sure how to please tell me 2006toyotacorrola ( talk ) 10:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

hi 2006toyotacorrola and welcome to the teahouse! you can just insert the userbox template onto your userpage like any other template, like such: {{User en}} , which'll display as such:

for actually arranging your userboxes to look neat, you could use more templates like {{ Babel }} which is mostly focused for language-related userboxes like the above (although works with any), or you could use a table to arrange them like I did over at User:Melecie/userbox list if you want to add many of them (although tables are hard to get used to so you may wanna borrow my code for the meantime, also don't get carried away by userboxes by the way!) happy editing! 💜   m elecie  t alk - 10:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ 2006toyotacorrola : If you want them in a vertical column, you could also use the {{ Userboxtop }} and {{ Userboxbottom }} templates. The "See also" section of those templates' pages list some other templates used to arrange the boxes. Deor ( talk ) 11:31, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Check out my User:A diehard editor/More userboxes page for a look at how I arranged my userboxes into neat rows. A diehard editor ( talk | edits ) 21:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
As per suggestion from User:Melecie I found that the table way is a good way to start off.
BenBrownBoy ( Aye? ) 14:47, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Changing name of page [ edit ]


I am trying to edit my workplace's Wikipedia pages, however I'm finding it difficult to edit.

'Brooksby Melton College' and 'Stephenson College' (Coalville) have now merged and now fall under "SMB College Group" (www.smbcollegegroup.ac.uk).

I would like to create a Wikipedia page for each campus, so Stephenson Campus, Melton Campus, Brooksby Campus. Or, we are happy to have just one page as SMB College Group with sections about each individual campus.

I have edited Stephenson, but it will not allow me to change 'Brooksby Melton College'.

Please can someone help me with this request?

Thank you

Becca Rjsmb ( talk ) 15:40, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Rjsmb see WP:PAID and WP:COI . Please do not edit the articles directly as they will likely not be encyclopedic and neutral. Sungodtemple ( talk ) 15:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, Becca, and welcome to the Teahouse. It sounds as if you have the (very common) misconception that Wikipedia's articles about your workplace in some way7 belong to or are for the benefit of your employer. They are not: they do not belong to them, they are not controlled by them, they will not necessarily contain what they want them to say (and they may end up containing material your employers would definitely not want them to contain, as long as it has been published by a reliable source).
Having said that: once you have made the mandatory declaration of your status as a paid editor you are welcome to use the edit request mechanism to suggest changes to the articles. It will be uninvolved editors who make the decision on what changes shoukd be made, though. ColinFine ( talk ) 21:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Just to confirm that anything you post publicly allows you to be traced IRL online (Wikipedia is not a variant of social media ). This caught my eye as I know one of the past-principals at Bridge Road, although I've not seen him for around 20 years.-- Rocknrollmancer ( talk ) 22:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Rjsmb As ColinFine says, please don't think of this as "I am trying to edit my workplace's Wikipedia pages"; instead, think of this as "I'm trying to edit Wikipedia's articles about my workplace". That slight shift in thought will put you in the right mindset.
And then we'll tell you, as ColinFine did, that you are not allowed to directly edit Wikipedia's articles about your workplace (etc. etc.). Edit requests are the way to go, and as long as you supply references for your suggested changes as the instructions say, if your suggestions are neutral in tone and free of puffery, they will probably be made. ( talk ) 06:43, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Look, I think you're slightly losing sight of what's important here. If the two colleges have merged, it's in Wikipedia's interest to reflect that, so Rjsmb should be thanked for bringing the matter to our attention here. Andreas JN 466 11:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Unfortunately, the articles are in such poor shape, with an entire lack of secondary sources, that it's not clear whether our notability standards are met, merged or no. I don't blame @ Rjsmb for having assumed they could simply add much more information from primary sources and change the titles appropriately; if they still want to work on this project, perhaps they know of published, reliable, secondary sources that could be used to create one decent article on SMB College Group as a whole. ( talk ) 12:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Rjsmb , @ JN466 You are right; we want the information in WP to be accurate. The policies are in place to ensure objectivity and verifiability, and yes, we should express our thanks to Rjsmb for helping WP achieve its goals. ( talk ) 16:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Identification of Nationality of Historical Figures [ edit ]

This might sound nit-picky, but for example Jonathan Edwards is identified as 'American' even though no such country existed when he was born, but Ukrainian Engineer Stephen Timoshenko is identified in the opening paragraph of the text of his article as 'Russian' because Ukraine was occupied by Imperial Russia at the time of his birth. When you search 'Timoshenko' the choice for him is 'Ukrainian Engineer' which I think is more correct. Being somewhat familiar with his work and story before I read the Wikipedia article, I'd always thought of him as Ukrainian. I think there are some similar inconsistencies with the biography of Sholem Aleichem. Are there any guidelines for what nationality historical persons are primarily identified as? Thanks in advance for the help. Woogawoogawooga ( talk ) 00:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, Woogawoogawooga . We have several articles about people named Jonathan Edwards. If you are talking about Jonathan Edwards (the younger) , then he became an American citizen in 1776 as a result of the Declaration of Independence and was an American citizen his entire adult life. As for Stephen Timoshenko , he was born in the Russian empire and later became an American citizen. There was no independent Ukrainian nation during his lifetime. The article correctly says that he was of Ukrainian ethnicity. The lead sentence of a biography should identify citizenship in almost all cases. Ethnicity comes later. Cullen328 ( talk ) 01:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
OK! Easier to ask the question than to guess the pattern. Thanks! Woogawoogawooga ( talk ) 02:51, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
So wait, now I'm confused. Luis A. Ferré's page says that he's "Puerto Rican Engineer" but by your guidelines -- citizenship -- it should say in the first instance that he's an "American Engineer", right? Because Puerto Ricans are American CITIZENS. I should correct that right away! Woogawoogawooga ( talk ) 03:43, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Why are you confused, Woogawoogawooga ? Do you really expect to encounter consistency among 6.5 million articles created by volunteers with varying degrees of familiarity with policies, guidelines and the Manual of Style? I agree with your edit to Luis A. Ferré , especially since he was a long time advocate of Puerto Rican statehood. But the situation of some other Puerto Rican residents is more complex. As our article Puerto Rican citizenship and nationality says, Despite possessing federal statutory citizenship, residents of Puerto Rico have no representation in the US Congress, are unable to vote in the Electoral College, and do not have full protection under the US Constitution, until they come to reside in a U.S. state. Some call their status "separate but unequal". Under these circumstances, I think that is appropriate to call dedicated Puerto Rican nationalists like Lolita Lebrón and Pedro Albizu Campos as Puerto Rican instead of American. This is why I said "in almost all cases" in my initial response. There are no hard and fast rules and pedantry is discouraged. Good editorial judgment is encouraged. Cullen328 ( talk ) 05:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
How does the status of Puerto Ricans differ from the status of Ukrainians under Russian Imperial rule, then?
And, yes, a Manual of Style would be a reasonable reference. My PhD is from the University of Chicago, after all -- the home of the Chicago Manual of Style.
Were you hoping to intellectually bully me with your pedantry? Isn't that discouraged? Woogawoogawooga ( talk ) 23:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Woogawoogawooga : Wikipedia does have a manual of style: WP:MOS . (It is veeeeery long.) In particular, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#cite_note-1 might be of interest. As far as I know, there is no general rule that applies to all sort of nationalities, but both cases where it was formalized (Spain, the UK) ended up on the same rule: "use whatever the subject uses as self-identification if they have one clear preference; failing that, what most reliable sources use if there is something predominant; failing that, establish local consensus". It would certainly be wise to follow the same process here.
I would add that changing articles to prove a point is disruptive (and specifically forbidden ), and escalating verbal rhethoric (cf. your last sentence) is not a good way to get a productive discussion. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 11:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thank you, Tigraan, for providing some context around the various ways a subject's nationality -- whether by birth or choice -- can be stated and clarified. Thank you also for the link to the Wikipedia Manual of Style -- it's all I'd originally asked for...and yet, got so much more. Not of anything I needed or was looking for but wow.
The Wikipedia article identifies him as 'Russian' when, in the Mechanical Engineering and Engineering Mechanics circles I studied in, he's generally understood to be Ukrainian-American. He was a founding member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences in the brief period of Ukraine independence between its occupation by Imperial Russia and its occupation by the Red Army and the formation of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
His and his son's published letters (not referenced in the Wikipedia article...yet) paint a much more nuanced and detailed picture of that time, as keeping his family safe from the Russian Revolution had them moving quite often, first sheltering in relative's homes in Ukraine, then migrating to different countries. Most tellingly, having grown up on a farm -- his grandfather had owned 3 in Ukraine -- he more than once evaded the Red Army by dressing as a farm hand and helping farmers he befriended in the countryside, as he was able to blend in, knowing how to do the chores & operate the machinery.
In academic circles these stories live on, but it was very interesting to find corroboration in these letters. Woogawoogawooga ( talk ) 23:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Draft:Benny Hendel [ edit ]

The article underwent many improvements, has many footnotes, is based on reliable and verifiable sources, especially from the most important newspapers Maariv, Yediot Aharonot, Haaretz etc and other well known written media in Israel, it s true most of them in Hebrew, but this is the language in that West-Asian country. it is true that radiobroadcasting is now a more neglected domain, and sources about radio broadcasting in the years 1990-2000 are not many,there are in newspapers, in some books, and someones also in youtube (the voice of the broadcaster and narrator) that are not accepted in wikipedia. The article is about a radio personality, interviewer and author of scientific and cultural programs very appreciated in Israel for a long period of time, also an appreciated translator of English and American literature (which would be a significant item for English Wikipedia)- including literature for children and poetry (among the sources are mentioned reviews by important Israeli writers, who appreciated his translations, published in serious publishing houses. It seems not so fair not to accept this article in the English wikipedia. The article exists in the Hebrew Wikipedia and in the Romanian Wikipedia which have good standards. Ewan2 (talk) 20:36, 15 September 2022 (UTC) What else one has to do for to make the article acceptable for English Wikipedia? Ewan2 ( talk ) 20:50, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello @ Ewan2 and welcome to the Teahouse! I looked over your article and the problem isn't the sources, it's how many you have. You will need to add more references (but also from creditable sources) in order to meet the requirements. Then you can try resubmitting it. Happy Editing! Helloheart (talk) 00:32, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Ewan2 , @ Hellohealth For "creditable sources" please refer to reliable sources . ( talk ) 17:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Helloheart Pinging the right user. ( talk ) 17:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thank you for the answer. Ewan2 ( talk ) 18:55, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

What should I classify this article as? [ edit ]

Hi everyone, what should I classify the Nascimento (surname) article as - List, Start, Stub or C? It explains what is the surname Nascimento , what it means, some statistics and a list of notable people with the surname. WPEditor42 ( talk contribs ) 14:38, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ WPEditor42 It seems pretty clear that this is a WP:LIST article type, so that's the simplest and best classification. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 14:49, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Michael D. Turnbull Thank you for your reply. I asked this because the article contains more than just a list. WPEditor42 ( talk contribs ) 00:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ WPEditor42 I agree it has a bit more than a list but its Talk Page already has classification as "list" for both the Projects which have expressed an interest in it. I see no need to alter that previous assessment and it would be very difficult to give it one of the other classes (see WP:ASSESS ) given the criteria mentioned there. My belief is that it is better to contribute to Wikipedia by adding material to articles rather than worrying about formal assessments. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 13:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Someone Deleted my draft [ edit ]

Please I need help, I created draft:Kula perry and a wiki user has deleted it. Stitches03 ( talk ) 19:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Stitches03 . The reasons for the deletion are explained at User talk:Stitches03#Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Kula Perry . Do you have any questions about that rationale? Cordless Larry ( talk ) 19:24, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Stitches03 An Administrator deleted it for the reasons given: you copied copyright protected content and the content of the draft was deemed promotional. You can try again. Content from any source must be paraphrased in your own words rather than copied. Look at Wikipedia articles about other clothes designers to understand avoding promotional wording. Having independent references is essential. What KP says about himeself on Instagram, Facebook, own website, etc. do not count. David notMD ( talk ) 02:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

I need assistance with an article? [ edit ]

Hi. I'm working on an article for a well known public figure who is a YouTuber and actress in my country. I'm trying to get the article published but I'm not sure if the sources I used are good enough? I would appreciate any feedback/suggestions on how I can improve the article and get it published.

The article: Neo Rapetsoa

Thank you. Alien Superstar ( talk ) 20:34, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

There are a number of good sources from news sites. Ruslik _ Zero 21:00, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks! Alien Superstar ( talk ) 19:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hey @ Alien Superstar , the article looks good. It doesn't have any copyright violations , the citiation bot ran over the article and made some very minor changes , and overall the article is well written. One thing to note is that every article on Wikipedia needs to have some categories added to it to help other users find the article. I went ahead and added a couple for you listing her as a South African actress and someone who was born in 2001 . If you think there are a couple more that could be added go right ahead and add them. Dr vulpes ( 💬 📝 ) 21:35, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hi, @ Dr vulpes thank you so much for your assistance. It's much appreciated! I will add more categories and work on improving it. Alien Superstar ( talk ) 19:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Deleting [ edit ]

There is a page I've come to edit, and there are some details I would like to delete from it because I feel that it's not needed on the page. However, I'm new here and I want to be sure I don't make a mistake and potentially lead to conflict. Am I able to do that or should I simply leave the details alone? Sabertoothman ( talk ) 21:17, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Sabertoothman : Welcome to Wikipedia. Since you didn't give us the details, then I would tell you that editors are generally encouraged to be WP:BOLD and make the edit, if you are acting in WP:GOODFAITH . If you are, then go for it. However, if you believe the edit is likely to be controversial, you can always suggest the edit first on the Talk Page of the article. If the article is not highly visited, though, you may not get a quick response. In that case, you might just want to make the edit yourself. Pyrrho the Skipper ( talk ) 21:24, 16 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Are the details referenced? Is the content germane to why the subject of the article is notable? David notMD ( talk ) 02:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Since details are an issue, here's my situation. I want to edit the dhole page by adding more information about how they live with tigers. The information comes from two scientific studies, one is how they use the diel to avoid the big cats and the other reveals tigers suppress their pack sizes. At the same time, I would like to delete some of the current details (about dholes killing tigers) because they might give the readers the wrong idea that dholes as a pack are nearly invincible rather than simply talking about them like animals. That, and those old stories probably helped the dhole's near demise back in colonial times and thus do not see them as something to be looked at fondly. It deleting them isn't recommended, then I'd at least like to edit them to mention that the stories remain unverified. Sabertoothman ( talk ) 04:02, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Symbol redirect vote2.svg   Courtesy link:   dhole -- Maresa63 Talk 07:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

John Irwin (producer) merge with Irwin Entertainment [ edit ]

These 2 pages are very similar, one about the company and one about the Producer (owner). I already deleted bunch of info from producers page that was duplicate, but I suggest merging them. I do not know which should be the master page and I also do not know how to start this process. Please provide advice. Upper Deck Guy ( talk ) 00:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Upper Deck Guy Both of these are poor articles which could do with more work. However, one is a biography of a living person and the other an article about a company . As such they are about completely different topics and unlikely to merge well. If and when more information is added, they would be likely to diverge more. Hence I think it would be better to keep them independent. Other editors may disagree with me and if you want to test that out, then the merger proposal process outlined at WP:MERGEPROP is the way to go. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 14:09, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Which References Do you Need for Publishing an Article? [ edit ]

Hello@ ‪Stuartyeates‬

Could you please help check which references you need for publishing this article?

The four references are the footnotes for the quotations found in the article. The fifth one is a Book ( ISBN 957-561-172-1 ) for the Category of Sacred Catholic Music of this draft: Draft:Roman Catholic Church Accompanist .

I've found an English page that has some proof of the Accompanist (Church Musician): These musicians often accompany the church choir or congregation during the singing of hymns. Here's the link FYI: https://www.musicalexpert.org/what-is-a-church-musician.htm

Could you please let me know where to add it to the footnotes as References?

Do you need any other English copies for the references?

Your help would be much appreciated.

Please let me know.

Thank you.

Nativefreelancer ( talk ) 00:57, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, Nativefreelancer . In order to establish that the topic is notable , you need to provide references to significant coverage in reliable, independent sources of "Roman Catholic Church accompanist". An internal church document that Pope Paul VI wrote in 1963 is not an independent source. The musicalexpert.org source does not differentiate between Catholic and Protestant church musicians, so it does not support the notability of your specific topic. You need to find reliable sources independent of the Roman Catholic Church that devote significant coverage to the topic. Perhaps academic scholars of comparative religion have discussed it. It is up to you to find such sources. Cullen328 ( talk ) 01:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello@ Cullen328
Thank you for your insightful suggestions.
Do you think this page from a Roman Catholic Church will do to explain the role of a Roman Catholic Church Accompanist (Musician)?
It's in the Accompanist section.
Your help would be much appreciated. Nativefreelancer ( talk ) 08:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I'm afraid not, Nativefreelancer. That site fails on three counts: first it is not reliable - that doesn't mean that we doubt that church, but there is no reason to expect them to be going through a rigorous editorial process as we would from a major publisher or newspaper. Secondly it is not independent , since it is from a catholic church. (That would not necessarily preclude citing it as an additional source, but it cannot contribute to establishing notability ). But the main problem is that it does not contain a single word about "Catholic church accompanist" as a topic. (In particular, neither the word "church" nor the word "Catholic" appears in the paragraph you mention). You are trying to establoish that "Catholic church accompanist" is a significant topic - in order to do so, you need sources that discuss that specific topic in depth. ColinFine ( talk ) 09:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Nativefreelancer , the two short sentences in this page are about RC accompanists in that one RC church (in Bismarck, SD). They say very little; and what little they do say may or may not be true for other RC churches. -- Hoary ( talk ) 09:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello @ ColinFine
I see what you mean. Will the college website that describe the role of an accompanist do?
Here's the page FYI:
Option 1: Berklee College of Music
Or this Publication: Book or Magazine may explain what a Roman Catholic Church Accompanist do.
Option 2: 10. To the Chief Musician: Organist as a Worshiper, and 13. The Accompaniment of the Hymns
Option 3: Organist: A Mid-monthly Musical Magazine, volume 16
Hello @ Horay
Actually, it reflects all the Roman Catholic Church. That's why I provided it as a reference of the page here for similar description found in the introduction of this draft. FYI:
Draft:Roman Catholic Church Accompanist
The purpose is for cross-checking if needed.
Do you think the 3 options provided above may be used as independent references?
Your help would be much appreciated.
Please let me know.
Thank you. Nativefreelancer ( talk ) 10:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Nativefreelancer , the Berklee source is a good source about accompanists in general, but does not mention the Roman Catholic Church. Accordingly, it does not help establish the notability of your narrowly defined topic I cannot read the second source. The third source appears to be a letter to the editor signed with a pseudonym, so is of no value as a Wikipedia source. It is just one random person's opinion. Cullen328 ( talk ) 15:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Edit war [ edit ]


I am new to Wikipedia and I seem to be in an edit war regarding a certain page about information that is on it. I would like to be able to contact the person with which I am in this "war" to come to some agreement. However, I do not know how to identify who made the changes and how to contact them. Cbolton2001 ( talk ) 01:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Look in the page's history (linked at the top of the page); it should list the users who are reverting your edits and provide links to their talk pages. — Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 01:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, Cbolton2001 . The first thing that you must do is stop edit warring. If you continue, you will be blocked. Edit warring is not permitted. There are legitimate forms of dispute resolution available to you. As for the content dispute, you may misunderstand the purpose of an encyclopedia article about a college. Such an article should neutrally cover the entire history of the institution, warts and all, reflecting what the full range of reliable independent sources say about the topic. It is not supposed to be a bright and shiny brochure that advertises the 2022 version of the institution, and the feelings of the current staff are of no consequence whatsoever. You should express your concerns at Talk:St John's College, Hastings . Cullen328 ( talk ) 01:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Cbolton2001 , two editors have reverted your deletion of well referenced content. They are Adakiko and Gadfium . Cullen328 ( talk ) 01:57, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
You can communicate with them on their Talk pages, but keeping dialog to the article's talk page is preferred. David notMD ( talk ) 02:04, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I agree with the editors who have reverted your deletion. However, either the History or Historical abuse sections could benefit from providing information (with reference(s)) about when priests stopped teaching at the school. David notMD ( talk ) 02:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thank-you for your reply. I acknowledge the history and the warts and all aspects of the College History. My understanding is that while the two priests have been accused, and one of them found guilty, of abuse, the abuse did not occur at St John's College. Hence my desire to edit the page. I do not want an edit war, so appreciate the dialogue. Cbolton2001 ( talk ) 02:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
The best place to discuss this is the article's talk page, where all involved editors can contribute and read each others' contributions. Maproom ( talk ) 07:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Cbolton2001 Much of the article is unreferenced, and refs 3, 4 and 5 (the same 2006 report) are a dead link. Much can be done to improve the article. Including taking and adding a photo(s) of significant buildings. David notMD ( talk ) 07:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
On Cbolton2001's Talk page, has posted being an employee of the school. David notMD ( talk ) 02:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Size matters [ edit ]

I have a problem. You can see it if you go to the Discography section of the article for Beat Happening . The last entries in both the Compilation and Singles sub-categories evince a short dash, but the page uses long dashes. Search as I might, I can't find a long dash on my keyboard. Maybe it's antiquated, or maybe there's a secret virtual keyboard accessible only after a certain number of edits a la the Wikipedia Library. Whatever, I solved this problem once before by cutting-and-pasting, but I wonder if there's a more elegant solution.  Pete Best Beatles ( talk ) 04:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

If you have a numeric keyboard, hold down the Alt key and type 0151 for an em dash or 0150 for an en dash . You can also use the {{ em dash }} or {{ en dash }} templates. General Ization Talk 04:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Pete Best Beatles : I haven't seen it on any keyboard. You may have a drop-down box with clickable options below the edit area. Both "Wiki markup" and "Insert" start with en dash "–". Long dashes are usually en dashes but should occasionally be the even longer em dashes. See more at Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Dashes which also mentions ways to produce them. I know several but often just use copy-paste which is pretty fast with keyboard shortcuts (cut: Ctrl+x, copy: Ctrl+c, insert: Ctrl+v). PrimeHunter ( talk ) 05:26, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ General Ization : @ PrimeHunter : Thanks. Maybe the Wikinati don't rule after all. -- Pete Best Beatles ( talk ) 11:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Mary Motley Kalergis [ edit ]

A delayed response -- sorry, but I've been away from the interwebs -- to Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1164#Finding_Independent_Resources , on Draft:Mary Motley Kalergis , and more specifically to CrystlBluPersuason 's request at the end of that:

Flattery much appreciated!

The draft has problems of formatting, but let's put them aside for now.

Perhaps most pressing issues are those of copyright, raised when you write, or cause to be written, "Uploaded a work by Mary Motley Kalergis from Hardcopy of [such and such] provided by the artist, along with Creative Commons CC0 Waiver. with UploadWizard". Unless I misunderstand utterly, "the artist" is Kalergis. Informing Commons of this CC0 Waiver is a job for her alone, I believe. Though for File:Mary Kalergis.jpg it's for William Campbell. (Incidentally, concerning File:Diafarmma Kodak Gallery Exhibit invitation.jpg , it's "Diaframma", not "Diafarmma".)

Secondly, while the draft is bristling with (appreciative) commentary from people (notably fellow photographers) whose freely expressed opinions on photography mean something, where these comments come from isn't specified, so they'd be classed as unreferenced. A number of them read like blurbs: comments served up at the publisher or author's request. Blurbs won't hack it. Very unfortunately, there's not much of a culture of thinking reviews of photobooks (I haven't seen the New York Review of Books or even the New Yorker recently, but I don't think that either reviews any); however, I'd have thought that somewhere " reliable ", some of her exhibitions and shows would have been reviewed.

And lastly (for now), "she pursues her passion for foxhunting on horseback" means no more than "she hunts foxes", I think.

So, is Kalergis "notable" (as notability is, perhaps perversely, defined by and for Wikipedia)? I'd guess that there is evidence somewhere out there that, if you could only find it and cite it precisely, would show that yes she is. -- Hoary ( talk ) 07:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Thanks! I'm enjoying the process of learning how to edit Wikipedia-style, although the required precision is a bit daunting. You've provided a fine initial critique, with much to keep me busy. Stay tuned for further iterations before (I hope) actual publication. Regards, Cryst. CrystlBluPersuason ( talk ) 15:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

About dead links [ edit ]

I found that in the references of multiple articles about African butterflies in the family Lycaenidae and Hesperiidae have atbutterflies.com as their source, but the link seems to no longer exist. Can I replace them with other sources?

Links Telipna acraea and Gamia buchholzi

ball deletor. 07:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

.polishcatsmybeloved , doing so could raise problems. Have you looked in the Wayback Machine for usable scrapes of the pages that are now dead? -- Hoary ( talk ) 07:16, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
PS How to do this: Simply, choose among the Wayback Machine's various copies of the page to find a copy that says what the now-deleted original is described as saying. Replace the dead link with a link to this Wayback Machine copy, labelling it as a Wayback Machine scrape of such-and-such a date. For details, see Help:Using the Wayback Machine . -- Hoary ( talk ) 09:10, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ .polishcatsmybeloved I've done the Telipna acraea one for you as the link was to a Word document and not properly formatted as {{ cite web }}, which made it slightly more tricky. You should be able to work out how to do the other from my edit. Also, you might like to read the document itself, which seems to have been a lot of work for whoever wrote it and may be of interest for other articles. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 13:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Mike Turnbull lmao thanks this is really useful for me ball deletor. 07:37, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Help needed: Speedy Deletion nomination of new page, account of editor blocked and previous changes discarded [ edit ]

Dear community,

I am reaching out for your expert advice to help solve an issue my client has landed into. Points listed below give an account of events in chronological order:

-An employee at my client's edited his company page with information to reflect new development in terms of revenue, geographical presence, etc., edited language at places to make it more suitable, added current citations for both old and new edits, organized the page with tabular layouts for sections like Board of Directors, Board members, etc.

-These edits were accepted without any issue.

-He then went on to edit the page of his company's Co-founder and chairman, and again made edits to reflect new information. The new information/edits included - information pertaining to early life and career, awards & recognition and Social work.

-These edits also got accepted without any issue.

-After two or three weeks, he developed content for another co-founder of the company, and created a page for him on Wikipedia. This time however, the page got nominated for deletion, and his profile is said to be indefinitely blocked.

-The administrator who nominated the co-founder's page for deletion also banned this editor's profile and discarded all his recent edits made on the company and company's chairman's page.

-This employee of my client's has reached out to me for help, so I am writing here to get your expert thoughts on how can I best handle this.

From my understanding and knowledge of how Wikipedia works and the policy and guidelines to edits content or to create new page, I can say that the edits made on company page and those on the co-founder page do not seem to violate any guidelines, the one concern I have though is that this employee who made the edits did not disclose his conflict of interest, which he should have done to begin with.

There is a big issue with the new page creation, because their earlier attempt I am told was rejected I think a year or two back. They tried creating the page again by changing the content to make it plain and non-promotional. Added proper reference links too. Their point is that the other co-founder (whose page got deleted) is also a prominent figure (no less than the co-founder who has the page up) and is well covered by the media; journalists and people also look for him, and there is need and a solid case to have a separate Wikipedia page for him.

I am thinking to follow the below steps to help. And please I request you all to guide me here to make the best, ethical decision:

1. Ask the client's employee to go through Wikipedia guidelines and policies thoroughly, especially the ones which led to this situation. 2. Ask the client's employee to appeal for getting his account unblocked. And in this appeal he should disclose that he had conflict of interest. And such mistakes will not be repeated. 3. Appeal to the administrator to have a closer look at the edits made on the company page and co-founder page (which all she/he rejected) and instead of rejecting everything, advise on making them better suited for Wikipedia if she/he finds there are specific issue with certain edit(s). 4. To create a page for the other co-founder, I can advice the client to first analyze if there is a solid case to have a separate page for this person, and if there is a good case, they can start by creating a page at Special:Mypage/co-founder which can allow other editors to contribute while the page gets developed, instead of controlling the content themselves.

Your advice is much appreciated. Looking forward to hear back. Thank you!

Yours faithfully,

- Fahad

PS. My apologies, I can not yet disclose the pages and editor's profile referred to here, but if you feel it is mandatory and will help resolve the issue in any way, I can put it here. Fahadmonibsiddiqui ( talk ) 11:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Fahadmonibsiddiqui , it would be good if your client's employee could post here on this page (though not in this section, if you want to maintain anonymity), explaining what has happened and asking for well-informed advice. But he can't, if his account (Wikipedia doesn't do profiles) has been blocked. I'm somewhat surprised that an inexperienced editor has been blocked for undisclosed paid editing. But there may be aspects that I don't know about. Maproom ( talk ) 11:52, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks for your response @ Maproom . As per my knowledge, he is not getting paid exclusively for wiki edits. I think he got this as an additional responsibility to his job role. And yes, his experience is limited only to editing which is the easier part, becoming acquainted with and complying with the policy is the hard part, which I think is not a common practice. Hence, the good work by administrators, and responsible editors is needed. I'll request the client's employee to explain in a suitable forum, but right now, I need help to understand which steps to follow in a case like this. Fahadmonibsiddiqui ( talk ) 12:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Welcome to the Teahouse, Fahadmonibsiddiqui . When you write that "These edits were accepted without any issue", are you aware that most edits aren't subject to any form of approval process? It's likely that the edits concerned just went unnoticed.
You also write that "From my understanding and knowledge of how Wikipedia works and the policy and guidelines to edits content or to create new page, I can say that the edits made on company page and those on the co-founder page do not seem to violate any guidelines, the one concern I have though is that this employee who made the edits did not disclose his conflict of interest, which he should have done to begin with". That final part is very important. Undisclosed paid editing is a violation of the site's terms of use. Please see WP:PAID on this (it also strikes me that the requirement to make the disclosure also likely applies to you). Cordless Larry ( talk ) 12:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
it also strikes me that the requirement to make the disclosure also likely applies to you
It certainly does! Dutchy45 ( talk ) 12:44, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hi Larry. Thanks for your response. "It's likely that the edits concerned just went unnoticed." but I have checked these edits and it seems they have made updates which do not qualify as promotional. These seem like necessary updates, and I think regular updates are made by different brands everyday as part of the hygiene to keep the information up-to-date, and my client's attempt probably was not very different. Having said that, please note, I was not involved with the client until the issue surfaced.
I am not sure if the edits made by the employee qualifies as "paid edits" as this was given as an additional responsibility to him, he does a completely different job.
Can you please advice how can we approach this step-by-step? Fahadmonibsiddiqui ( talk ) 13:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
You stated that the edits were accepted, Fahadmonibsiddiqui , and I pointed out that there isn't an acceptance process (unless they were requested via an edit request, perhaps?). You're now stating that they were necessary, but that's a different matter.
Edits made by an employee are paid edits. Both you and your client need to make the required disclosure. Your client can then appeal their block and promise not to edit the relevant articles directly, but to use the edit request process as outlined at WP:COIREQ . Cordless Larry ( talk ) 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks Larry. This is helpful. I'll ensure the procedure is followed correctly moving forward. If you have any other advise please share. Fahadmonibsiddiqui ( talk ) 15:07, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing may be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk ) 17:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Fahadmonibsiddiqui As CordlessLarry says, "paid editing" is not restricted to cases where someone is paid per edit. Edits made by unpaid interns are "paid edits", and so are edits made by company owners. WP has its own lingo... ( talk ) 05:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Two articles need combining [ edit ]

Found Shout (Laurie Halse Anderson book) and Shout (memoir) as they are on the same subject. Can someone combine them when they have time? Thanks GrahamHardy ( talk ) 11:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ GrahamHardy I note that @ Just another anon already tagged one of the pair in January this year but doesn't seem to have followed through. I wonder if the correct process was followed, since Shout (memoir) doesn't also have the tag. It seems obvious they do need to be merged as duplicates. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 13:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ GrahamHardy I checked carefully and couldn't find any content at Shout (Laurie Halse Anderson book) that wasn't already at Shout (memoir) , so I just created a redirect and removed some double redirects. You might like to check I didn't miss anything useful. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 14:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

another link to a title [ edit ]

Hey guys,
I want to add Bingoal Stadion to the names that link to ADO Den Haag Stadium , since that is the new naming sponsor. How do I do this? Or somebody feel free to do it for me. See this announcement by the club: https://adodenhaag.nl/nl/business/home/10248-ado-den-haag-presenteert-bingoal-als-stadionsponsor?highlight=WyJiaW5nb2FsIiwiJ2JpbmdvYWwiXQ== Dutchy45 ( talk ) 12:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Done Roostery123 ( talk ) 12:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thank you! Dutchy45 ( talk ) 15:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Assessment Unknown [ edit ]

Why the article I created is unknown in assessment field but it has been added to wikidata 16 days ago. Asiis ( talk ) 14:31, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Which article are you talking about? Article assessment (apart from Good or Featured articles) is informal, and has little practical consequence. ColinFine ( talk ) 15:58, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

The Addams Family Updating Help Needed [ edit ]

Looking at the Addams Family Wiki Page I would like to add some information. I am not computer savvy enough to do this myself without messing up the page.

Under Homages and Adaptations I wanted to include that on 17 September 2022, The California Lottery included a $2 scratcher based on the original TV series with images of the original adult cast (Lurch, Grand-Ma-MA, Fester, Gomez, and Morticia). The description of the game from the official website is They’re creepy and they’re kooky and now you have a chance to win their family fortune. The Addams Family Fortune Scratchers® feature 10 chances to win, including 2X and 10X multipliers and a spooky “bat” symbol to win all ten prizes automatically. Best of all, with two snaps of your fingers you could play for your chance at a TOP PRIZE OF UP TO $30,000! Source https://www.calottery.com/scratchers/$2/the-addams-family-fortune-1529 Can someone please update this for me? ScottC4746 ( talk ) 15:04, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

That sounds like an advertisement, and so inappropriate for a Wikipedia article. But if you really want to request it, you should do so on the article's talk page. Maproom ( talk ) 15:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, ScottC4746 . This would only be appropriate to add if reliable sources that are entirely independent of the Addams Family franchise and the California Lottery discuss it. Cullen328 ( talk ) 15:58, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, ScottC. If a reputable newspaper has reported and discussed (not just mentioned) that this is happening, then it may be mentioned in the Wikipedia article, cited to that newspaper. Otherwise, No. See MOS:CULTURALREFS . ColinFine ( talk ) 16:08, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ ScottC4746 In addition to what is said here, that info is extremely trivial. WP doesn't need to include every minute detail about a subject. Personally, if I wondered whether any lottery had based a game off of The Addams Family, I would consult a search engine, not an encyclopedia. But that's just me. ( talk ) 05:15, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Help with editing a page [ edit ]

Hi there,

I need help with this page I am editing — Susan Sherman .

I have issues with 2 images:

There was an issue with an image I uploaded accidentally about Gay Liberation — and I was wrong about the copyright. The image isn't rights-free and it must be removed, but other editors keep putting it back. How do I delete it permanently?

Thank you,


Ovaryian ( talk ) 17:24, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

I don't see anything that you uploaded to Wikipedia , but you did upload images to Commons . As Gay Liberation1970.jpg was uploaded yesterday, if you want to have it deleted, you can put {{SD|G7|your reason here}} at the top of the commons file page .
Also, please ask Commons questions at the commons help desk , a lot of the admins here aren't admins at Commons and can't delete pages there. Weeklyd3 ( talk ) 17:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, Ovaryian, and welcome to the Teahouse. Or, more simply, go to c:File:Gay Liberation1970.jpg and pick "Nominate for deletion" from the sidebar. Is c:File:Adrienne Rich and Susan Sherman.jpg also a copyright violation? ColinFine ( talk ) 17:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thank you, that's helpful.
c:File:Adrienne Rich and Susan Sherman.jpg is not a violation, but I do want the photographer credited and someone keeps deleting it. Ovaryian ( talk ) 18:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I have replied below. ( talk ) 18:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

help with photo caption [ edit ]

I am editing this page and need to credit the photographer even though the image is open source. How do I do that so it doesn't get deleted?

Someone keeps deleting the photographer credit, over and over. It's the top photo on this page (with Adrienne Rich): Susan Sherman

Thank you!

Tamar Ovaryian ( talk ) 18:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Ovaryian , the place to credit the photographer - if it is required - is not in the caption in the article, but on Commons where the image is hosted. I note that you uploaded it as "own work", which is apparently not the case. ( talk ) 18:34, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks! That's very helpful Ovaryian ( talk ) 19:52, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello again Ovaryian. I'm afraid it's not as simple as you are suggesting on c:COM:Deletion requests/File:Adrienne Rich and Susan Sherman.jpg . You have made the legal assertion I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license , which now appears not to be true.
I don't know if Commons will accept changing the licence on the file, or whether it will have to be deleted and uploaded again; but in either case, you must provide evidence that it is licensed in a manner consistent with Commons' requirements: that the copyright holder has either explicitly placed it in the public domain , or explicitly released it under a free licence such as CC-BY-SA . I suggest you reply on that Commons discussion page, citing where the explicit release of the image is to be found. ColinFine ( talk ) 20:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Ovaryian , @ ColinFine What does "open source" mean for an image, if anything? A mis-naming of "public domain", perhaps? ( talk ) 05:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

How do I change my username without messing up my user pages? [ edit ]

I've been on Wikipedia for a year, and I have been thinking about changing my username. If I do, will I have to redirect my user page, talk page, and sandbox? GDFilbert ( talk ) 18:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, GDFilbert. Probably not. See WP:CHU . ColinFine ( talk ) 20:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

What kind of verifiable information can I use other than a company's website? [ edit ]

HI. I recently got an article declined and was wondering what resources can I use to verify on my article. I used the company's website, but that was declined. Any thoughts or help please? Aguzman72 ( talk ) 21:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello Aguzman72 , and welcome to the Teahouse. In essence, we don't care what any company says about itself. Our criteria for 'notability' require that other, independant Reliable Sources have written about that company, in books or newspapers for example. We don't accept company press releases or blogs, but we do accept independent journalism if in detail and in depth. You can learn more about what's needed for a business to meet our notability criteria by clicking this shortcut link: WP:NCORP . I hope this helps makes things clear for you, and do remember that Wikipedia does not permit WP:PROMOTION of a business. We're an encyclopedia that summarises and collates information about 'notable things'. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk ) 22:04, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Oh dear: I've just taken a look at Draft:Gemini Energy Solutions , and it's pure promotional advertising, partly copy-pasted from your website, and in no way written in the style of an encyclopedia (because that is what we are, not a Yellow Pages!). Phrases like: "They are helping to flip the script on the clean energy industry;..." or "His practical understanding of business needs makes him a perfect fit for Gemini’s Virtual Assistant role. " are unacceptable - especially as you are evidently writing about yourself in the second example I cited.
You have an obvious Conflict of Interest and, as an employee of the company, are not allowed by our rules to write about it without making a formal declaration per instructions found at WP:PAID . But I'm afraid there is nothing that can be done with this article to turn it into anything that resembles an encyclopaedia entry based on secondary sources. I can find none. So now, as an administrator here, I'm afraid I am obliged to delete it as pure WP:PROMOTION . This doesn't mean that we don't respect what your company is trying to achieve within the green energy sector; but there is no place for an article about it on Wikipedia at this time, just as so many millions of other worthy businesses don't merit an article either. (Maybe it's simply WP:TOOSOON ). Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk ) 22:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Radio station license notability [ edit ]

Does a article of a radio station pass WP:BCAST if the only source is licensed by the government (for example: In the Philippines, the mentioned radio station is in the document of the NTC radio listing)? SeanJ 2007 ( talk ) 02:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, SeanJ 2007 . A simple directory listing in a government database is not sufficient to support a freestanding article about a radio station. It would probably be enough for an entry on List of radio stations in the Philippines . Cullen328 ( talk ) 06:57, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Cullen328 Aren't lists supposed to be lists of other articles that meet the list topic? ( talk ) 05:23, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

User translating English pages to Igbo [ edit ]

I came across a page ( Cedrus atlantica ) written in Igbo. It turns out the user @ Winniejovita has been translating pages into Igbo. They have only started recently and only changed two pages so far. I reverted their edit to the cedar article, and the other one was already reverted.

However, I think there is a high chance that this isn't a case of purposeful vandalism, considering the effort put in to make the edits and the user's page. Therefore, I have put a notice on their talk page telling them to instead create the articles on the Igbo Wikipedia [1] . I think they might be valuable editor for the development of that language's Wikipedia, bearing in mind that it only has around 1500 pages according to Wikidata. I'm a relatively new editor myself so if anyone more experienced has any ideas or wants to help then that would be great. I think it would be of much benefit to the Igbo Wikipedia if someone walked them through how to translate pages between different language Wikipedias so they could contribute properly. MimiKal797 ( talk ) 02:16, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, MimiKal797 . Instructions for translating articles from the English language Wikipedia to Wikipedia versions in other languages can be found at Wikipedia:Translate us . Can you share this link with the other editor? Cullen328 ( talk ) 06:26, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Foam Disintergration [ edit ]

Been to survey a suite today, booked in no probs, when i checked inside one of the seat cusions i noticed the foam was starting to crumble, is they anything i need to watch for when i come to clean this?

The foam is contained in an elesticated net so i was going to vac as much as possible up inside the cover before starting? Moteled ( talk ) 02:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Moteled : this is wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . what seat cushions? what foam? we do not sell those. lettherebedarklight , 晚安 , おやすみ , ping me when replying 04:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Please do not bother to answer those questions, as again, this is an encyclopedia, not a help or how-to website. David notMD ( talk ) 04:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Other evidence of notability for films [ edit ]

Hi, I want clarity over "The film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking" guideline. What exactly are these aspects of filmmaking other than production? Do they include direction, music, cinematography, screen writing, acting, or others? ... Would a film meet this criterion if it receives awards for categories like, "best actor award", "best playback singer award", or "best musician award"? Thanks. Insight 3 ( talk ) 04:04, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, Insight 3 . Pay special attention to the General principles section of that notability guideline. In the end, it is the quality of the reliable, independent sources and the depth of the coverage in those sources that establishes notability. The standards established in the various special notability guidelines are to provide editors with a convenient yardstick for determing whether or not a certain topic is likely to be notable, not that it is guaranteed to be notable. With regards to awards given to films, the significance of the overall award is much more important than the specific category of the award. It is difficult to imagine a film that won three Academy Awards in any category not being notable. On the other hand, it is easy to imagine a low budget film made in a rural county winning a few awards at a regional film award ceremony but not receiving significant coverage elsewhere. In other words, film awards are an indicator of notability, not a guarantee of notability. Cullen328 ( talk ) 06:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks for your reply. Ok, I understand a film must meet the primary criteria of notability first. But my question is about the nature of different categories of awards a film may receive. For example, it is clear that if a film gets "best film award", it adds to its notability. But if a film only receives a "best actor award", would the award then enhance the notability of the film or it would go to the actor's credit? Insight 3 ( talk ) 07:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Insight 3 , any major award in a major category awarded to a film means that the film is highly likely to be notable. It is difficult to imagine a film that won for "Best Actor in a Motion Picture" at the Golden Globe Awards not receiving sufficient coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. Do you have a specific situation in mind, or is this all hypothetical? Specific situations are best for Teahouse discussion. Cullen328 ( talk ) 07:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Yes, there is an AfD discussion going on for a Nigerian film. The film has won 2 awards in acting categories. Though I agree it lacks basic media coverage, but a participant's remarks regarding the awards made me confused:" Beside, the award was NOT for the film itself (or any "aspect of filmmaking" per WP:NFO#3), its two wins are for acting. Do you create an article for "Best Kiss in a Movie" winner too?... ". Insight 3 ( talk ) 10:55, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Insight 3 , so this is about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucifer (2019 Nigerian film) . It is interesting that there is no Wikipedia article about the actor who won the award. In all honesty, I see a lot of weak reasoning in that debate on both sides. What is completely lacking in the discussion is any evidence that the film received significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. I clicked on two of the references in the article and was taken to websites infected with malware. That discourages additional investigation. Cullen328 ( talk ) 15:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Well, that discussion has been closed as no consensus. Now what I have understood from your previous reply is that it doesn't matter what's the category (whether direction, story, music, acting, or whatever) of the award a film receives, all that matters is how much media coverage that film gets as a result of winning any award. Am I right? Insight 3 ( talk ) 10:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Article getting rejected a lot citing less adequate sources [ edit ]

My article is getting rejected a lot. I've tried to follow all guidelines regarding the references but still, I'm getting reasons like "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources". I have no other sources available. Please help

Draft:Seven Sisters Development Assistance Psranat ( talk ) 05:51, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, Psranat . One of your references is a press release which should be removed because it is not independent. Another refererence does not mention Seven Sisters Development Assistance and therefore is of no value. The other references mention the group only in passing. Significant coverage is required. Cullen328 ( talk ) 06:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Psranat , if the only sources that are available for a particular subject are inadequate, then no article can be created. That aside, there are problems. Just one sample: To accomplish its mission, SeSTA is committed to achieving the following goals: [...] . (i) This is corporate-image-speak for straightforward "SeSTA has the following goals". (ii) Almost every organization touts its admirable goals, but Wikipedia generally ignores these unless they are widely discussed. What do sources unrelated to this organization say about its achievements? -- Hoary ( talk ) 09:06, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Psranat , the first three sections of Draft:Seven Sisters Development Assistance cite no sources at all. Where did you get that information from? If you're writing your draft backwards , no wonder you're finding it difficult. Maproom ( talk ) 09:25, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Psranat The tone is not quite fit for an encyclopedia:
  • collectivising women to build their capabilities and strengthen livelihood systems
  • facilitate them out of poverty
  • bring and embed educated youths with empathy at the grassroots
Encyclopedia language is dry and factual, and it takes some practice to write. ( talk ) 05:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Edit or provide a link to External sources? [ edit ]

Hey Community! I was writing an article of Test of Purity, meanwhile when i searched a bit i found out that there is a page of Purity test . I was writing about the test of purity . Now as both of the topics have same meanings but there title is different. i am confused what i can add or either i have to create a new one ? DavidZen001 ( talk ) 09:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ DavidZen001 Welcome to the Teahouse! If you think it's a good idea, you can redirect Test of purity to Purity test , see WP:MAKEREDIR on how to do that, and you have to get WP:AUTOCONFIRMed first.
On the website you linked, per their aboutpage [2] and WP:SPS , you shouldn't add anything about them anywhere on WP, unless you can cite independent WP:RS coverage about them. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk ) 09:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks alot. I will dig into it. DavidZen001 ( talk ) 10:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Verification of a post about myself [ edit ]

As a frequent daily user of Wikipedia (couple of time donnod, but that is not important in this case) I evaluated that as an author of three non-fiction books (two in English) and non-political reasonably good known Slovenian it would make sense to post a short entry of myself on Wikipedia. Everything I wrote as a proposal was already published this way or another and is 100% factual. Something that I respect and something that I sometimes help to correct in other Wikipedia entries.

I have been informed that one cannot post an entry on himself - which make perfect sense. I was advised to contact a reliable Wkipedia contributor to asses and hopefully post it. I do not know how to contact anyone from the proposed list of reliable sources for Wikipedia.

Could anyone help me with this?

Thank you.

p.s. I'm using Wikipedia sometimes in my scientific papers - which is sometimes not welcomed by my peers, but I will keep doing this. Drapi ( talk ) 09:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Drapi Welcome to the Teahouse. Your first (not only) hurdle is WP:GNG . So, based on what you read there, what are the best 3-5 sources you can think of? They don't have to be in English, though it makes things somewhat easier. Recommended reading: Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing . Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk ) 10:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Courtesy link Draft:Andrej Drapal . Theroadislong ( talk ) 10:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
You are not FORBIDDEN from attempting a draft about yourself, but all facts must be verified by independent references. Many try-but-fail attempts are because content the person knows to be true about themself has no independent reference. Confirmation of you having written books belong in the article, but contribute nothing to confirming your notability. David notMD ( talk ) 17:12, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
When you write that you use Wikipedia in scientific papers, Drapi , do you mean that you reference it? I'd recommend not doing that. See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for an explanation of why. Cordless Larry ( talk ) 17:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Contrary to what Cordless Larry suggests, I encourage you to cite Wikipedia in scientific papers, as long as you do it properly. As Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia indicates, that means citing a particular revision with a permalink rather than a changing page, and using it only for reasonably uncontroversial stuff. I have done so myself once in a paper and once in my PhD thesis, and nobody batted an eye. (If someone had objected, I would probably have found another citation.) Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Superstition in Southern Italy [ edit ]

How does one request a topic or page? I saw an article for Superstition in India. There are corresponding articles for superstition in various other regions. I'd like to see one with superstition in Southern Italy, but it does not exist. BradVesp ( talk ) 10:57, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ BradVesp : you could try Wikipedia:Requested articles , although requests there are rarely answered. that is the only place to request an article to be written, though. lettherebedarklight , 晚安 , おやすみ , ping me when replying 11:04, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Redirect to a section with categories [ edit ]

The article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Anthony_Falls_Hydroelectric_Development has sections, such as "Main Street Station 1894 1911" that should be included in categories, such as Category:Hydroelectric power plants in Minnesota
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_to_section it appears a new article "Main Street Station" can be created with

  1. REDIRECT ++St._Anthony_Falls_Hydroelectric_Development#Main Street Station 1894 1911++

++R to section++
++Category:Hydroelectric power plants in Minnesota++
++other categories++
that will be alphabetized as "Main Street Station"?
how is that different from

  1. REDIRECT ++St._Anthony_Falls_Hydroelectric_Development#Main Street Station 1894 1911++

NO ++R to section++
++Category:Hydroelectric power plants in Minnesota++
++other categories++
that will be alphabetized as "Main Street Station"?
"List of contributing properties in the St. Anthony Falls Historic District#Nicollet Island
Residential Area" has a list of houses that are part of a historic district and thus are NRHP. Is it appropriate to do the same kind of redirect with
++Category:Houses on the National Register of Historic Places in Minnesota++
(the redirect is for a list)?
Comments? BudKey ( talk ) 14:35, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello, BudKey. I'm afraid my comment is that excessive use of new lines makes your post so difficult to read that I can't get my head round it. I suspect that other people have a similar reaction, and that's why nobody has answered in 31 hours. ColinFine ( talk ) 18:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Sorry. Isn't just new lines but spacing looking like double new lines which came from Wiki Markup. Wiki Markup drastically reformatted what I wrote. I didn't notice how bad it was before I posted it and then didn't have time to figure out a fix. Best fix would probably have been to look up how to turn off Wiki Markup. BudKey ( talk ) 13:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hi @ BudKey , and welcome to the Teahouse. If I understand correctly you want to create a redirect to the Main Street Station section in the article and categorize that redirect. That is fine, and it should be categorized as redirect to section because that is what it is. However Main Street Station already exists as a redirect to a disambiguation page for the many articles on Wikipedia that have main street station in their names. So call the redirect something like Main Street Station (hydroelectric plant) . You can also create redirects to list articles. StarryGrandma ( talk ) 18:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ BudKey : It appears you ask which difference it makes to include the code {{R to section}} . See Template:R to section . It displays a message when the redirect page is viewed and adds the page to the hidden category Category:Redirects to sections . See [3] for an example. It has no influence on the actual redirect. PrimeHunter ( talk ) 10:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Error in my reason for a revert [ edit ]

I made an error in a recent revert reason https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=X-Men_(film)&action=history (Should have read $75,000,000 and not $70,000,000). Is there a way to edit this without undoing the 'undo' and redoing it with the correct figure? BenBrownBoy ( Aye? ) 14:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Use a dummy edit . Add an extra line to a random part of the page or something and use "Dummy edit: Fixed edit summary' " or something. A diehard editor ( talk | edits ) 15:03, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Changeing the page name [ edit ]

hi the page is talking about someone else and the title has a different name.how do I change the title on the page Amar habibullah ( talk ) 17:12, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Ibrahim Habibullah was originally about a person by that name. Some time ago the given name in the article was changed to Enaith, but the article is still titled Ibrahim. David notMD ( talk ) 17:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello Amar habibullah, and welcome to the Teahouse.
After looking at some of the sources to verify that Enaith appears to be the right name, and looking at earlier versions to make sure that the article has not been hijacked for a different person, I have moved it to Enaith Habibullah .
Amar habibullah, are you a relative? If so, you should read about conflict of interest and should not edit that article directly, but make edit requests . ColinFine ( talk ) 18:27, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
The article was indeed hijacked, by an unregistered editor, in July 2014. It was originally about a General Ibrahim Habibulah, born in Hyderabad (not Lucknow like Ephraim). It was very poorly referenced. Maproom ( talk ) 18:33, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I suppose question, then, is whether ther current version contains any content or references about Ibrahim. David notMD ( talk ) 00:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Wikipedia Has Many Grammatical Errors [ edit ]

 – Copyvio content has been removed. — Tenryuu 🐲  (  💬  •  📝  ) 20:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Catniped ( talk ) 20:01, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Catniped : Welcome to the Teahouse. If you see grammatical errors you are more than welcome to correct them, though some of the examples you listed would not be considered as such. — Tenryuu 🐲  (  💬  •  📝  ) 20:12, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
And several, such as "It has come to our attention that your tax returns are overdue and we urge you to file them at your earliest convenience." are simply your inventions- they do not appear anywhere in Wikipedia, except in your post. Please don't complain about things that don't exist. - Arjayay ( talk ) 20:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
This is just a copy of https://www.grammarly.com/blog/30-grammar-mistakes-writers-should-avoid/ and a copyvio. StarryGrandma ( talk ) 20:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I'm too lazy to check right now, but wasn't in Polonius who said "brevity is the soul of wit"? Just before he said "I will be brief." Just before he was anything but. Uporządnicki ( talk ) 20:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Catniped - I have fixed the few instances of "could of" that should be "could have". However, there are many instances of "could of" that are correct . I also removed the instances of "dilapidated ruins" that weren't quotes. Your assistance in removing other grammatical errors would be greatly appreciated! GoingBatty ( talk ) 21:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Picture Collage [ edit ]

How does one create a photo collage at the time of a page, as seen in Wikipedia articles "2019", "2020", and "2021"?

The ganymedian ( talk ) 20:44, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

The ganymedian : does Help:Gallery_tag help? If not, you may need to create the collage yourself, using some graphics software. Maproom ( talk ) 20:55, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Climate Change article editing [ edit ]

Hello, Teahouse. I would please request your permission to edit the main "Climate Change" article. I have background in meteorology and graduate level climatology. My focus is on "Droughts in California" which I have begun to edit due to incorrect or inapplicable information about the climate of California and causes of drought. I need to direct this page to the main pages on "Climate of California" and "Climate Change" for background that is not specific to California, possibly to other relevant pages. I will need to delete much of the content of the Climate Change section of the "Droughts in California" page since the content does not relate to California and comes across biased for that reason. I have just edited the disambiguation for global warming to clarify that global warming is one type of climate change (the terms are not interchangeable) and would like to add this detail to the "Climate Change" article; and further specify two types of climate change as natural and anthropogenic (man-made) since climate change occurred before greenhouse gasses were released by human industry. I will provide examples of natural climate change. I have also seen there is a call for climate experts, and I do see by my perusal the need on Wikipedia to improve the content surrounding climate. I am beginning my endeavors with the "Droughts in California" page. I may possibly be able to involve other academics in Wikipedia articles once I have entered material on level for review. FinancialCents ( talk ) 21:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hi @ FinancialCents and welcome to the Teahouse. You do not need anyone's permission to edit. Technical articles are alway in need of expert input, but please read Wikipedia:Expert editors first. This is quite different from writing technical papers. As an encyclopedia, our articles summarize published reliable sources (usually secondary), do not include original research, and do not draw conclusions that are not in the sources. Your examples will need to be provided using already published sources. We are happy to have you here. StarryGrandma ( talk ) 21:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ FinancialCents : Hi there! The Climate change article is semi-protected . Once your account is at least four days old and you have made at least ten edits to Wikipedia, your account will become autoconfirmed and you will be able to edit the article. Thank you for your work to improve Wikipedia! GoingBatty ( talk ) 23:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Yes I see now that I am autoconfirmed. The notes and warnings led me to believe otherwise. My edits were not accepted by other editors, so I have moved to the Talk page of the Climate Change article. I am going by university course teachings by PhD researchers and also with core texts Meteorology Today (Ahrens, Hansen) and Climatology (Rohli, Vega). My input is not politicized. FinancialCents ( talk ) 23:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I doubt that university course teachings can be used as references. David notMD ( talk ) 00:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
David notMD Presumably you mean that unrecorded, oral presentations in teaching courses are iffy, because they are not verifiable . However, recorded presentations, or slides of teaching materials, or textbooks certainly are acceptable, and used in a lot of articles. See for instance the first six references of the article Electric field .
Of course, recent research in reputable scholarly journals trumps such sources, but in the absence of a disagreement between sources, teaching material is fine. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I sit corrected. I would have replied "I stand corrected," but first, I am sitting, and second, I am puzzled as to why "I stand corrected" is correct, even though I just found out that its origin is a play from the 1600s. David notMD ( talk ) 12:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Surely "stand" (and n. "stance") is here used in a metaphorical sense to refer to one's mental 'position' on a philosophical, ideological or intellectual matter. {The poster formerly known as} ( talk ) 13:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Hello [ edit ]

Hello Hotells ( talk ) 21:56, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Welcome to the Teahouse, @ Hotells . Do you need help or advice with editing Wikipedia? That's what we do here - help newcomer editors. Hope you enjoy being with us, too. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk ) 22:31, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Heyyy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panini! ( talk contribs ) 23:01, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Features Lists on Main Page [ edit ]

I have a close family member with a stutter. I found List of stutterers and it seems it has never been on the main page. There must be a process for this. If someone could submit this list into the process I'd appreciate it. Thanks. WhoAmIYouDoNotKnow ( talk ) 00:45, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ WhoAmIYouDoNotKnow : I fixed your link. Check out WP:FL for links on what the requirements are for featured lists and how to nominate one if it is ready. RudolfRed ( talk ) 00:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
WhoAmIYouDoNotKnow , Talk:List of stutterers tells us: "This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured list on October 24, 2014." -- Hoary ( talk ) 03:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Editor seems angry [ edit ]

Starting with a note at Talk:Diagolon , there's a series of big edits that seem rather questionable. Some I don't understand what they do (like the citation ones). Can someone with more experience take a look? I've only ever done single reverts and didn't have the best time last time. Appreciate y'all! — LumonRedacts 04:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

The IP's edits to Diagolon were reverted. Part of the problem was that the IP used the Diagolon website as a reference for descriptions of what Diagolon is and is not.
Looks to me like the IP also cited several independent sources. A wholesale revert was inappropriate, in my opinion. ~ Anachronist ( talk ) 08:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Yes, thanks for your reply, see your perspective totally, @ Anachronist . I think, however, the editing was pretty... pernicious? IP edited around code, didn't add new sources for their rewrites. If you see Diagolon is a global movement of people with wildly different goals and opinions who share a strong love of freedom and reject the intrusion of government in civil liberties at this diff , it looks like they wrote around an existing source that said something else entirely? I mentioned the citations earlier because it just seemed something was going on that seemed ... thought-out about them? (I'm sorry, I'm still working on no coffee, and I'm not sure if any of this makes any sense at all. And honestly... that page is a mess.... ugh.) Cheers! — LumonRedacts 13:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

JPG Link Upload [ edit ]

How does one attach JPGs without pasting the entire html from a website into the syntax of the wiki user sandbox? Is this done through the Upload Wizard? Thanks The ganymedian ( talk ) 06:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ The ganymedian : yes, you upload photos using the upload wizard. your pictures must be appropriately licensed to be used , and photos found on the internet are rarely cc-licensed. lettherebedarklight , 晚安 , おやすみ , ping me when replying 07:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
oh yes, if you can show that the picture meets the non-free content criteria , you may use copyrighted images. lettherebedarklight , 晚安 , おやすみ , ping me when replying 07:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Assuming that you don't intend to claim "fair use" for this or that article, The ganymedian , upload eligible images to Wikimedia Commons , not to Wikipedia. Once they're at Commons, you can use them for Wikipedia as if they'd been uploaded to Wikipedia. lettherebedarklight has already pointed you to WP:IUPC ; please be sure to digest it and understand it. -- Hoary ( talk ) 07:44, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ The ganymedian : ( edit conflict ) "Attaching" Media to an article must be done in two steps, the first of which is the complicated one: First, the Media File in question must be uploaded, either locally to the english Wikipedia , or to our sister project Wikimedia Commons . I say this step is complicated, because it is nessesary to find out the copyright restrictions of the media file before uploading it. Wikimedia Commons accepts files which have either been demonstrably licensed under a free license , or are demonstrably Public Domain in both the country of origin and the US . The english Wikipedia, on the other hand, accepts all media files Wikipedia Commons would accept, plus, non-free (i.e. copyrighted or incompatibly licensed) media, if it meets all of the non-free content criteria . Please also note that both the english Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons consider works to be fully copyrighted unless there is evidence to the contrary. The second step, is to actually add the media file to the page in question. Non-free images are only permitted in articles and certain internal discussions where transcluding them is nessesary. Normally, the Upload Wizards I linked to above will provide you with the general syntax to add an image to the article, but for completeness's sake, usally standalone images are added with [[File:Filename.ext|thumb| Image caption ]] . See Wikipedia:Extended image syntax for more. Victor Schmidt ( talk ) 07:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Do something for this draft . [ edit ]

I see that " Draft:Embassy of Switzerland, New Delhi is lagging necglected, and is there since for almost a couple of month. I would suggest that either editors/contributers looks into the issuea and improve and submit the draft for article. Otherwise, as I have mentioned on it's talk page , please redirect it to List of diplomatic missions in India#Diplomatic missions in New Delhi . BoyHayHay ( talk ) 08:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ BoyHayHay : Feel free to merge any material in that short draft into a target article, especially if there isn't enough there for a standalone article. There is no need to create redirects from draft space. If the draft is not resubmitted, it will simply be deleted after 6 months, and can be restored by request; see WP:REFUND . ~ Anachronist ( talk ) 08:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I am still a rookie at these changes. So, i would rather request other/ BoyHayHay ( talk ) 12:09, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Ok well no needed, i appiled " db-g7 ". The Draft can be simply and safely be deleted. BoyHayHay ( talk ) 12:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Some one created fake article for my company [ edit ]

Dear Team

Please how to remove fake article because one of fake person created my company page ( talk ) 08:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Welcome to the Teahouse. Could you tell us the name of the company, so that this can be investigated? Cordless Larry ( talk ) 08:15, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Cordless Larry : It looks like it might be Herald Scholarly Open Access , based on the IP's contribution history. ~ Anachronist ( talk ) 08:23, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
I presumed so too, but it would be good to hear it from the IP (and also what's "fake" about the article). Cordless Larry ( talk ) 08:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
If I understand right, Cordless Larry , a fake article is one created by one or more fake persons. I'd be interested to learn how the questioner distinguishes between the fake persons who create WP articles and the real persons who do so. -- Hoary ( talk ) 12:11, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

The article in question was created by an editor who has been active for ten years, and has edited and created other articles about companies in the publication business. If this about Herald Scholarly Open Access , there have been (reverted) attempts by IPs and to "whitewash" well-referenced criticism of the company. David notMD ( talk ) 12:41, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Crop image of painting is not a copy vio? [ edit ]

Thomas William Holburne

Hello there, would it be a violation if I cropped an image from this website and use it as a lead image in wikipedia? It is a 19th century painting which I believe can be published under a free license. Danial Bass ( talk ) 08:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

  • @ Danial Bass : If the painting itself is out of copyright, a faithful reproduction is considered copyright-free (or at least, that’s a legal position the WMF takes). You will need to tag the file with the appropriate template from Wikipedia:File_copyright_tags/Public_domain#Art . You can make any sort of derivative work from such a public-domain image (e.g. by cropping) and release it under a Commons-compatible license.
However, whether the painting is out of copyright might not be so obvious. Assuming UK law applies and Wikipedia:Non-U.S._copyrights#Dates_of_restoration_and_terms_of_protection is accurate, paintings lapse into public domain 70 years after their author’s death. In our case, that means the painter must be dead in 1952 at the latest. It seems very unlikely that the painting was made after the subject’s death in 1874, or that the painter went on to live 78 years after making the painting, but you would need to be sure. Do you know who the painter was? Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:44, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks for the detailed response @ Tigraan , this is very useful! From what I gathered the painter is (most probably) Charles Jaegger (1770-1827) from this source . Danial Bass ( talk ) 09:55, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Danial Bass You could use the one on Commons already. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk ) 11:05, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Yeah I actually just noticed this haha. But the info from Tigraan was still valuable. Danial Bass ( talk ) 11:48, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Translation Help [ edit ]

Hello, I need some help with the translation of the meta page Code for Africa Climate Project into french. Thanks Jwale2 ( talk ) 11:18, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

How can I reactivate the Basic Income project and why has interest left it? [ edit ]

UBI is a very important social reform but it suffers from systemic resistance which is not recognised by advocates. Janosabel ( talk ) 12:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Janosabel , the teahouse is for asking questions about editing or using Wikipedia, not general content questions. Sungodtemple ( talk ) 12:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks for not being very helpful Janosabel ( talk ) 12:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello Janosabel , and welcome to the Teahouse. Please don't be rude towards them; you never mentioned a Wikiproject specifically, and they thought you were talking about something else.
Asparagusus (interaction) 12:46, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Thanks for the explanation. I thought "Basic Income project" would mean the Wiki project. Janosabel ( talk ) 13:22, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Sungodtemple , I believe they were asking about WikiProject Universal Basic Income .
Asparagusus (interaction) 12:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Re: How to Publish the Article [ edit ]

I have created the I have created the BALHASAHEB (Ramrao)Rathod page I am unable to publish the article and if I have search with this name BALHASAHEB (Ramrao)Rathod it is showing no result found.

So,could you please let me know how to publish the article. BALHASAHEB (Ramrao)Rathod ( talk ) 13:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ BALHASAHEB (Ramrao)Rathod You have, I'm afraid, fallen at the first hurdle because you have tried to create an autobiography without taking the time to learn anything about what is required to meet Wikipedia's standards. Please read help on how to write here but more importantly WP:NOT , which discusses some of the things Wikipedia is NOT to be used for. Mike Turnbull ( talk ) 13:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

How to get a draft article to replace a redirect [ edit ]

Hello. I've been an editor for years but mainly citation, updates, etc and not redirects or page creations. I want to move Draft:Old People's Home for Teenagers to Old People's Home for Teenagers but it is redirected to Old People's Home for 4 Year Olds . I've read several items about doing this, but this is my first time.

I am hoping someone could talk me through it. I don't want to mess things up. I thought I understood what to do. I got a little confused on the process, so I thought I'd come to the Teahouse.

Now I am wondering if I can simply go into the page in redirect mode https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Old_People%27s_Home_for_Teenagers&redirect=no , remove all the redirect code and put the draft code in there and have my draft deleted?

Thanks in advance, also feel free to add tips and help on my talk page as I try to do more advanced editing on Wikipedia. P37307 ( talk ) 13:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ P37307 I believe you don't need to move the draft to the redirect, you could just copy the text from the draft, remove the redirect, and paste the material. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia because copying within Wikipedia requires attribution. WP:RTOA is just a basic idea of this. I also back up what ColinFine says below, so that can be an alternative to what I suggest. CollectiveSolidarity ( talk ) 14:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, Paul, and welcome to the Teahouse. You can't do that yourself, as it requires admin intervention, so make a request at requested moves .
However, I'm not convinced that your draft yet establishes that the subject is notable , so it might be a better plan to paste {{ subst:submit }} in the top of it and wait for a review. ColinFine ( talk ) 14:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

. [ edit ]

How do i report a page? there was one under a dream SMP tag, and one of the links had uncencored gore. DreamSMP.Fanboy ( talk ) 14:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ DreamSMP.Fanboy : Welcome to the Teahouse. Which page would that be? I see you made an unfunny edit request at Talk:Dream SMP . — Tenryuu 🐲  (  💬  •  📝  ) 15:32, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Bella Hadid [ edit ]

Hello, i saw Bella Hadid article and it seems like an error on her biography. I mean, her middle name is 'Khair' not 'Khairiah'. proof : 1 , 2 , 3 and even her instagram biography is : Isabella Khair Hadid. Can you change it please? Thank you :) Datsofelija ( talk ) 15:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

Datsofelija , you can change it yourself. See WP:BRD . Sungodtemple ( talk ) 15:41, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
Hello, Datsofelija, and welcome to the Teahouse. I agree that those sources say that her name is "Khair", but in the existing citation no 4 in the article, her father says that it's "Khairiah". It's always a bit of a problem to know what to do when the sources disagree. ColinFine ( talk ) 16:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

"Skin"!? [ edit ]

I clicked on the link to try out the new interface features, and got the message, This will change your skin and reload the page. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I don't want my skin changed, and I doubt that any other users will either. What on earth is it talking about? Koro Neil ( talk ) 15:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]

@ Koro Neil : Welcome to the Teahouse. For more information about skins , you're going to want to click on that link. Basically there are some features that are available on certain visual representations of the site, and you will need to change to one that has those features enabled. — Tenryuu 🐲  (  💬  •  📝  ) 15:59, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]
@ Koro Neil : See Wikipedia:Skin for our skins. You can always change skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering . PrimeHunter ( talk ) 16:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC) Reply [ reply ]